Would You Buy A Car from Dr. Suzanne?
When we last heard from “Dr. Suzanne” Gudakunst, she was offering to be our very bestest friend and promising to protect us from the perils of thunder thighs, icky parasites and medical/food industry/government conspiracies…all for the low, low price of $37. As I recently discovered (h/t to Paul and commenter “Fee“) she’s hawking her own supplement products too! Her line, “Lotus Purity” is billed as “The Most Effective Colon and Parasite Cleansing Program on the Internet!”
That one sentence alone is almost enough to make my head explode. In my profession, words have MEANING. So when I read something like that, I immediately ask questions like:
- What criteria were used for judging the effectiveness of the product?
- What other products was it compared to?
But I know there won’t be any answers. I’m not supposed to ask those questions…let alone questions like:
- Is colon cleansing even necessary?
- Are “do-it-yourself” parasite cures really a good idea?
But I don’t even want to go there right now. Let’s stay focused on “Dr. Suzanne” and the claims for Lotus Purity.
And those claims are right up front:
- Contains ONLY the PUREST AMAZONIAN HERBS
- PROVEN to get RID of PARASITES, WORMS, and TOXINS
- PROVEN to BURN FAT and LOSE WEIGHT 3X FASTER
- PROVEN to Reduce STRESS and FATIGUE
- PROVEN to BOOST your METABOLISM
- PROVEN to LOOK and FEEL YOUNGER
The word “proven” litters the page like droppings at the bottom of a bird cage, yet no actual proof – of any kind – is offered. Before you hand your wallet over, don’t you think “Dr. Suzanne” should prove what “proven” actually means? Proven by whom? Under what conditions? Are there any controlled studies? What “toxins” are we talking about here? How do you even measure subjective states like “look[ing] and feel[ing] younger”?
Hell, where’s the data from those “thousands of patient trials”??? She’s supposed to be a DOCTOR, after all. “Doctors” are supposed to keep records. That alone should be enough to make you wary – and we haven’t even looked at the products yet!
So let’s do that now. Here’s what you get for your $88.00:
Colon Cleanse: contrary to claims, the primary ingredient in this product isn’t anything exotic, much less one of those “purest Amazonian herbs” – it’s magnesium hydroxide, also known as “Milk of Magnesia.”
It’s a laxative that can be easily bought over-the-counter at any drug store. Philip’s Milk of Magnesia is a well-known and inexpensive brand, although generics are even cheaper. The product also contains a couple of proprietary blends, featuring various non-Amazonian herbs with laxative effects, such as rhubarb root and Triphala: an Ayurvedic blend. These look pretty underdosed, but the milk of magnesia is there to do the heavy lifting, so it really doesn’t matter.
Some “cleanse.”
Fiber Cleanse: This features 1200 mg of various soluble/insoluble dietary fiber sources: psyllium, flaxseed, pectin, oat bran, and so on. Nothing wrong with any of ’em, really, but there’s no reason to buy them from “Dr. Suzanne”…you can find them at the grocery store – and for less money, too. Psyllium is the main ingredient in Metamucil, for example.
And heck, you can buy flaxseeds for just a few dollars per pound – grind ’em up in a coffee grinder and add them to a smoothie or a serving of oatmeal…they can even be added to recipes. Ditto oat bran.
Fiber Cleanse looks pretty pointless, if you ask me…
Liver Cleanse: This contains an array of stuff: Milk Thistle, Picao Preto, Chanca Pietra, L-Methionine, L-Glutathione, N-Acetyl Cysteine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Selenium, Artichoke Leaf, Hawthorn Berry, Dandelion Root + 12.3 millgrams of a probiotic blend.
Wow. Lots to untangle here.
First of all, “cleanse” is a misnomer…”support” is probably closer to the mark. Herbs like milk thistle and compounds like n-acetyl-cysteine are well-known and researched: we know a lot about what they do and how they do it. For example, even the “evil government conspiracy” agrees that milk thistle may have hepatoprotective effects:
Recent NCCAM-funded research includes a phase II study to better understand the use of milk thistle for chronic hepatitis C. Additional research, cofunded by NCCAM and the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, includes studies of milk thistle for chronic hepatitis C and nonalcoholic steatohepatitis (liver disease that occurs in people who drink little or no alcohol).
The National Cancer Institute and the National Institute of Nursing Research are also studying milk thistle, for cancer prevention and to treat complications in HIV patients.
So, we can score one for Dr. S, here – right?
Then again, maybe not. Milk thistle’s protective effects appear to be derived from “flavonolignans,” like silymarin. Preparations of milk thistle used for medicinal purposes, such as Madaus Legalon 70, are concentrated extracts standardized for the active compounds.
Is the milk thistle in Dr. Suzie’s product standardized? Is it even an extract, for that matter? For all we know, it could just be dried, ground, unconcentrated plant material. Not terrible, perhaps, but not something I’d want to pay a premium price for, either.
This goes double for the probiotic blend. Ever picked up a container of a good probiotic supp or functional food and looked at the label? They tell you how many “CFUs” (colony forming units) you’re getting. How many are you getting in the “Liver Cleanse”? – No idea. 12.3 milligrams means nothing in terms of viability or potency. You can do better, elsewhere.
Oh yeah…what about those pure Amazonian herbs?
“Picão Preto” (Bidens pilosa) and “Chanca Piedra” (Phyllanthus niruri) are both interesting plants that contain a variety of bioactive compounds. But the majority of research to date has been in rodents and cell cultures. What’s a “proven” therapeutic dose in humans? I have no idea…and neither does “Dr. Suzanne,” but one source suggests 2g – 4g doses of each. That’s a lot more than you get in this product. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that these, along with a majority of the other compounds in this blend, are little more than “label decoration.”
I’ll skip lightly past the question of whether one even NEEDS a liver support formula in the absence of any evidence of liver damage or disease…and simply note that there are lots of similar – and better quality – products out there. It will pay to do some comparison shopping, if you want a supplement of this type.
Parasite Cleanse: What I wrote in my earlier post bears repeating:
Sure, people can get parasites: and if you think you have this problem, then you should schedule an appointment with your doc: intestinal parasites are easily found under the microscope. Parasitic infections can be serious: do-it-yourself cures are no way to go about getting rid of them.
Indigenous people (in the Amazon Basin and elsewhere) didn’t resort to herbal remedies for parasites because they were more effective…they resorted to them because THAT’S ALL THEY HAD. And they had no way to know if the treatments were 100% effective, either. If you really have intestinal parasites, which would you rather use? Safe medical treatments that are KNOWN to work…or untested ones that we think might work because they’ve been used for that purpose in various folk medicine traditions?
I don’t know about you, but I know what I’d choose…
S88.00 is a good chunk of change…and it’s a lot to spend when economic times are tough. You don’t want to trust it to someone who hasn’t proven she’s worthy of that trust.
For what it’s worth, “Dr. Suzanne” hasn’t even proven that she exists!
Think about that for a second: what do you know about her, except what you see in her ads? The ads feature pictures of an slim, attractive woman, but how do you know she’s the real “Dr. Suzanne” – or if there’s a real “Dr. Suzanne” at all?
Here’s a not-so-trick question: Would a medical doctor dedicated to your health also try to sell you on a system for buying luxury cars on the cheap?
Doesn’t that strike you as a bit odd? It seems incongruous to me too.
According to Louis Edwards’ Ninja Report (h/t to commenter “Doc Bunkum“), Dr. S’s book and product sites are part of a much larger, and very intricate sales network that includes “free Google ads” and other internet marketing gimmicks, diabetes and cancer prevention programs, and the aforementioned “Top Secret Car Secret” – all operating under the aegis of a company called “Web Business Secrets LLC.”
Who’s behind Web Business Secrets LLC??? No clue. But it’s pretty obvious they’re in it for the money. It’s tough to say for certain, but it raises the possibility that “Dr. Suzanne” is nothing more than a fictional character, created strictly for marketing purposes. Other internet sleuths have found no trace of her at the Arizona addresses listed on her pages – or the rest of the state, for that matter. It’s an intriguing question.
So what’s the bottom line here?
It’s this: “Dr. Suzanne’s” pitch – whether she’s real or not – isn’t aimed at your health…it’s aimed at your wallet. You don’t need “cleansing” products to lose fat and improve your health. If you’re constipated, over-the-counter products will be just (if not more) effective. And if you’re exhibiting some of the other symptoms mentioned in the Lotus Purity ad, like:
A healthy, high-fiber diet and workout program will do the trick, and far more effectively, too.
December 31, 2008
Well, it looks as if “Dr.” Suzie and her scamming buddy, retired New York doctor Dr. Jon Cohen II (whoever that scumbag might be), have a dearth of material in their medical bag to keep you busy writing about them for a long time.
It appears they have a cure for every ailment known to mankind waiting in the wings to be released once they figure out how not to piss off the FDA too quickly.
Witness these sites:
http://topsecretcure.com
“The ultimate cure you can get to conquer 98% of all illnesses and sicknesses”
http://detoxadvantage.com
“Why you should clean up your insides and how to do it.”
… and other similar gems but I get this message when I try to list them… 🙂
Hmmm, your comment seems a bit spammy. We’re not real big on spam around here.
Please go back and try again.
December 31, 2008
These guys would make Kevin Trudeau proud! 🙂
December 31, 2008
Maybe Dr. Jon Cohen II is actually Kevin Trudeau and he’s banging Dr. Suzie on the side?
January 1, 2009
Well, Dr. Suzi is cute so if he is banging her on the side, he could do worse.
December 31, 2008
LOL – maybe, like Kevin T, Dr. S (or whoever’s behind her stuff) will end up in the crosshairs of the FTC. One can hope…
February 21, 2009
Thanks for that in depth breakdown. You really opened my eyes. I just feel sorry for those who still fall for all the hype and don’t investigate first. You’re awesome!
April 16, 2009
i have just bought her book or what ever it is after being accosted by emails for the past two weeks and i thought maybe there was some meaning in what she is saying, as i have a healthy diet and an active life style and i just cant seem to shift those extra pounds im carrying, but after reading what you have said and looking at how much she charges for her detox program and how much it is if you do it your self i think this is aload of crap and she is just trying to brain wash people into thinking you have these horrid little worms living in your body when you actually dont your more likely to have these worms if you live in a third world country or you dont live very healthily and you dont have a very clean life style and also these worms actually make you lose wiaght and not put it on as they are taking all your nutrients. i am going to cancel my order of her book and just go to my local chemist and buy a detox kit for around 15 pounds in english money a hell of a lot cheaper than 88 dollers.
June 10, 2009
You don’t have to buy her book. Just search google about her and scams and someone actually has a link posted that gives you full access to the ebook. Lots of pictures and info you probably already know. It does have some usefulness, but it’s definitely not worth the money she charges, in my honest opinion.
August 28, 2009
I did buy the fat loss secret and still trying to find what the secret is !!I thought the book was a waste of money, also you are forever bombarded with emails about how to get rich quick, I have to say though I was still enticed into buying lotus purity, so watch this space for the results.
August 28, 2009
Hi Anne: we’ll be happy to read about your experience.
October 18, 2009
Hi, A mug is written all over my face, I bought the fat loss secret diet, the book is a waste of money as there is not a secret to be seen that I or many others know about.
What is even worse I bought the lotus purity detox and apart from having the runs now and again I am no different, I constantly receive emails from the so called suzzanne to entice me to earn extra cash which has nothing to do with health, so any one out there reading this please do NOT waste your valuable hard earned cash on this scam. anne
October 18, 2009
Thanks for the follow up, Anne. For what it’s worth, I don’t know anyone (including myself) that hasn’t been tempted by product ads that promise far more than they deliver. Live and learn!
September 3, 2010
I bought both, the book and the lotus purity… I live overseas so once I bought they started sending me those mails for earning easy money wich I don´t belive.. so I feel stupid right now, and I don´t know if I will take the pills. I´m suspicius.
September 4, 2010
Don’t feel stupid, Fran… people like “Dr. Suzanne” are experts at taking people in. I first became aware of her after members of one of the forums that I moderate started asking panicked questions about food companies deliberately adding parasites to food products! It was ridiculous on its face, but you’d actually have to know something about a) food processing technology; and b) parasites to see through the lie. I do, but most people don’t.
She (+ the people behind her) are good con artists… and the first rule of the “con” is to appear sincere and be convincing.
November 17, 2010
So , should I buy it ( Lotus purity ) or not
November 17, 2010
I wouldn’t – not needed.
January 28, 2012
Despite the marketing perks the advice in Dr. Suzanne’s book is sound. I have been able to validate some of her recommendations in the Body Ecology Diet, by Donna Gates. Friends: this is new knowledge. Don’t expect to accept it by how it looks. You need to try it. Perhaps Dr Suzanne is fake but her advice is not. I agree with those that have chosen to not buy any products right away. I didn’t myself.
February 28, 2012
Y COMO SE TOMA ESE PRODUCTO YO .,LO COMPRE PERO NO LO E TOMADO NO SE DE LOS CUATRO BOTES CUAL SE TOMA PRIMERO. ALGUIEN SABE INFORMEN.
August 30, 2013
I’m really embarrassed because I bought lotus purity without doing any research online. And seriously, who the hell knows what’s in the bottles. I decided that I was a sucker (yet again) throw the product in garbage and chock it up to experience. Really angry with myself!!!!